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Hikan Trilear · Dec 18, 2007, 04:35 AM // 04:35

I know a problem alot of people have with this is that it's nearly impossible to get unless you only play one character. For the people who have alot of characters, it makes this title nearly impossible to get (if you want to play on all of them).

So, my idea is to have it count the titles from all of your characters, but one title can only be counted once. So if somebody had 2 characters that both had R10 Sunspear they would still only have 1 point in KoaBD. This way it doesn't really cheapen it for the people who already got it (They'd be able to display it on all of their characters) but it also makes it possible for the people who like to play alot of different characters to get this title...

Any feedback on any points I may have missed would be helpful.

placebo overdose · Dec 18, 2007, 04:45 AM // 04:45

/notsigned the title is so common i dont think its needed

Legacy Virus · Dec 18, 2007, 04:48 AM // 04:48

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10197837

I think this might be what you are looking for ^^

Stupid Shizno · Dec 18, 2007, 07:37 AM // 07:37

though this is a good idea, why would you be worried about getting a title that is made for "the committed player" if you like to jump around on chars?

imo all titles should be account based. even in pve, if i know you have a monk that has "people know me" and along that have "legendary guardian", and you wanted to play a new char as a ele, id rather have you on my team then someone who dosnt have any titles. because even though its a diff char, your still knowledgable in the area of the mission and can operate as needed.

Isileth · Dec 18, 2007, 07:48 AM // 07:48

/signed

Its the same player behind all the chars.

JeniM · Dec 18, 2007, 08:46 AM // 08:46

Different play styles get you different "bonuses"

More chars means more choice of proffesions so more builds to farm with so more money and can always swap char if you need cirtain farms
Less chars you get more titles - not seen as a bonus by everyone

Personally i like getting titles so i played 1,200 of my 1,600 on one character. I know people that like to bob back and forth through characters and have R2 KoaBD on all of them

pumpkin pie · Dec 18, 2007, 09:08 AM // 09:08

its not really hard to get, I've seen another god Walking Amongst Mere Mortal, first one is sometime ago, and second one was a week ago, some one was shouting and pinging their names in AB waiting area.

I am sure pretty soon godS (no offence to religions people who think theres only one God, these are the game type of god, hence lower case.) will be walking everywhere....

JeniM · Dec 18, 2007, 09:12 AM // 09:12

God walking amongst mere mortals is pretty common now

I see less Kind of a Big Deal's walking round than i do People Know Me's so people seem to be managing fine

Shayne Hawke · Dec 18, 2007, 12:07 PM // 12:07

Someone define "common" to me.

I think that just because you've seen them once or twice in all the more popular districts and towns, you can't call them "common". I still view the general populous as somewhere between ranks 2 and 4, if even that high.

This would surely stop the hellfest of a thread here and probably give it a better solution.

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Originally Posted by Isileth

/signed

Its the same player behind all the chars.

/agree

Edit: After reviewing a few more posts, I'm removing my support of this issue, because I realize that the globalization of titles need only apply to a few.

~ Dan ~ · Dec 18, 2007, 01:17 PM // 13:17

/notsigned

No need to water down another title track.

Isileth · Dec 18, 2007, 01:25 PM // 13:25

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Originally Posted by dan-the-noob

No need to water down another title track.

It wouldnt be watered down. The player has to achieve exactly the same ammount of titles.

No less work is required. Just people who enjoy playing multiple chars would now be able to go for it as well.

freekedoutfish · Dec 18, 2007, 02:11 PM // 14:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hikan Trilear

I know a problem alot of people have with this is that it's nearly impossible to get unless you only play one character. For the people who have alot of characters, it makes this title nearly impossible to get (if you want to play on all of them).

...

Then focus on one character if you really want KOABD. But you do realise that KOABD means nothing anymore because its so stupidly easy to achieve now.

Get protector on all campaigns = 3 maxed titles = extremely easy.
Get skill hunter on all campaigns = 4 maxed titles (including LSH) = even easier!

Result 7 titles and atleast one rank in KOABD! It really couldnt be easier to get atleast the first rank in KOABD on one pve character and to say otherwise its a bit worrying.

Obviously higher ranks are a different story, but 100% exploration on all 3 campaigns isnt hard with the new mods which exist and thats another 4 titles in your pocket.

Thats then 11 maxed and rank 2! All of that should not take you more then a month or two of playing an hour or two a night. There is not hardcore gaming required at all or endless hours of play.

This doesnt include SS and LB titles which are also very easy to max out! Thats add another 2 max titles.

Why do you want KOABD on all your characters anyway? KOABD is meant as a display of accomplishment for one individual character and the dedication you put into developing them through role play through the game. As another poster stated... why do you want to make a title meant to show character dedication show on all your characters?

Try to understand the difference between a pvp character and pve characters. A pve character is an individual and their accomplishments are unique to them and only them. They are the character who has spent months or years role playing through campaigns and lands and quests and missions to achieve these things.

Where as a pvp character takes 10 minutes to create and can be deleted and created again within minutes! PVE accomplishment like KOABD titles are unique and have to reflect what that "individual" character has done!

/not signed at any changes.

Plus what if your elemental has protector of cantha and your warrior has protector elona and your monk has protector of tyria. But none of the others.

By your logic that would make up 3 maxed titles right! What if you then deleted the monk and it removed one of those maxed titles! Does the game keep the count of 3 or drop it to 2?

Your system would require people to keep all characters they own for any titles they own to count towards the KOABD. You would have a title which is dependant upon all your characters and not just one. That makes it very risky.

Pyro maniac · Dec 18, 2007, 02:14 PM // 14:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by freekedoutfish

Then focus on one character if you really want KOABD. But you do realise that KOABD means nothing anymore because its so stupidly easy to achieve now.

Get protector on all campaigns = 3 maxed titles = extremely easy.
Get skill hunter on all campaigns = 4 maxed titles (including LSH) = even easier!

Result 7 titles and atleast one rank in KOABD! It really couldnt be easier to get atleast the first rank in KOABD on one pve character and to say otherwise its a bit worrying.

Obviously higher ranks are a different story, but 100% exploration on all 3 campaigns isnt hard with the new mods which exist and thats another 4 titles in your pocket.

Thats then 11 maxed and rank 2! All of that should not take you more then a month or two of playing an hour or two a night. There is not hardcore gaming required at all or endless hours of play.

This doesnt include SS and LB titles which are also very easy to max out! Thats add another 2 max titles.

Why do you want KOABD on all your characters anyway? KOABD is meant as a display of accomplishment for one individual character which you developed by role playing them through the game to achieve it.

Its not meant as a sign of accomplishments for your as an individual player!

/not signed at any changes.

so you didn't agree on the idea, just because titles are worthless to you?

/signed, will stop all the ideas of survivor title reset as well

Washi · Dec 18, 2007, 02:36 PM // 14:36

Why people want everything to be easier and easier and easier untill there is really no challenge in playin a game.

If getting KOABD is to hard for you just DON'T do it. Simple as that.

Limu Tolkki · Dec 18, 2007, 02:44 PM // 14:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stupid Shizno

though this is a good idea, why would you be worried about getting a title that is made for "the committed player" if you like to jump around on chars?

imo all titles should be account based. even in pve, if i know you have a monk that has "people know me" and along that have "legendary guardian", and you wanted to play a new char as a ele, id rather have you on my team then someone who dosnt have any titles. because even though its a diff char, your still knowledgable in the area of the mission and can operate as needed.

Totally agree. Titles tell about character experience.
/signed

Isileth · Dec 18, 2007, 03:03 PM // 15:03

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Originally Posted by Washi

Why people want everything to be easier and easier and easier untill there is really no challenge in playin a game.

If getting KOABD is to hard for you just DON'T do it. Simple as that.

How is it easier?

If I get protector of Tyria on my ranger and protector of Cantha on my warrior. Have I achieved less than doing both on one char?

A lot of people dont want to be tied down to 1 char but also want to try for KOABD. Under the current system you cant.

Alex Morningstar · Dec 18, 2007, 03:23 PM // 15:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Isileth

How is it easier?

If I get protector of Tyria on my ranger and protector of Cantha on my warrior. Have I achieved less than doing both on one char?

A lot of people dont want to be tied down to 1 char but also want to try for KOABD. Under the current system you cant.

Can't have your cake and eat it too.

System_Crush · Dec 18, 2007, 03:24 PM // 15:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Isileth

How is it easier?

If I get protector of Tyria on my ranger and protector of Cantha on my warrior. Have I achieved less than doing both on one char?

A lot of people dont want to be tied down to 1 char but also want to try for KOABD. Under the current system you cant.

Agreed, and for that reason /signed.

However I think (s)he means that it will make it easyer to have KoaBD on multiple chars.

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Originally Posted by Alex Morningstar

Can't have your cake and eat it too.

Course you can, until it comes out the other end.

mystical nessAL · Dec 18, 2007, 03:29 PM // 15:29

It's SO easy to get KOABD and it's nearly TOO common to see r3+++ of it. The whole idea in having fun in this game is to have something hard to do for the love of god, stop making this game easier than it is.

Nuclfus · Dec 18, 2007, 03:36 PM // 15:36

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Originally Posted by Limu Tolkki

Totally agree. Titles tell about character experience.
/signed

Lucky/Unlucky? Wisdom? Treasure Hunter? Drunkard? Sweet Tooth? There's only so much experience one can gain from the achievement of doing a small simple task over and over and over again. Even Protector/Guardian titles only mean so much when you can buy your way through most missions with a runner.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Isileth

How is it easier?

If I get protector of Tyria on my ranger and protector of Cantha on my warrior. Have I achieved less than doing both on one char?

A lot of people dont want to be tied down to 1 char but also want to try for KOABD. Under the current system you cant.

Not true. I've got KOABD on the mesmer already and my ranger's well on its way. In fact, I actually enjoy going back and earning it over again on a new character after one has pretty much run out of things to do. The protector titles in particular take maybe a week of casual play at most, and beyond that you can take your pick from skill hunter, cartographer, SS or LB, none of which really take that much investment.